Sophie Alboronzo — I do see the point they’re mak...

Look up how vague ‘disturbing the peace’, ‘public nuisance’, ‘indecency’ laws are written, then look up examples of how cops currently and historically have used them to arrest queer folk and women who were minding their own business…
…And then kill the cop in your head because ALL cops are bastards

Sophie Alboronzo

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You ever need someone to stand in front of you and take a punch from a 'phobe and I'm in the area, I'm your guy (absorbing pain is literally my superpower). Just bring me a necklace or charm or something made out of one or two of their teeth. Deal?

Spider

Cishet folks have demonized every aspect of being queer for decades, even the simplest act of queer people holding hands or embracing or cross dressing. Kinksters have always been the first to come to bat for the community even when they say and perpetuate kinda shitty things like you’re implying.

Sophie Alboronzo

True, we can't stop reactionaries from using kink at Pride as an attack against us, but we can rob those attacks of any impact. Don't play defense against bigots; don't submit to their stunted views of the world.

Sophie Alboronzo

I’m sorry about what I said. I don’t want to act like I’m trying to tell people not to be what they want to be. I was worried that folks were feeling pressured to not come out out of fear of being associated with kink, when this is evidently not the majority opinion. I concede I was wrong.

Eugene

actual sex isn’t allowed in public, no matter who is doing what. that’s not the issue. this is anti-protest/celebration rhetoric in general and specifically anti-LGBTQ. the same “respectability” frowns on a leather thong and collar and full-coverage clothes topped with a flag and keffiyeh.

cait

i will admit that i was making the same arguments as you two years ago, which is why i am not going at you as hard as other people in the thread. the conservative narrative has shifted from “we just don’t like those overly kinky lgbt people” to “all trans people are groomers” really quick

Sophie Alboronzo

like the current thing the anti-queer people are upset about is just the idea of trans people existing. school teachers saying “it’s okay to be gay” and stuff. because deep down, it was never really about the kink. they’re just saying the quiet part out loud. that’s what ultimately changed my mind

myste ⨺⃝🪽

it’s really interesting because if you look into it, kinksters were part of the stonewall fight. i think there are optically-effective ways we can explain this to people without erasing that part of history. two years ago i was arguing that the fight now is different. but honestly, it’s not, because

Sophie Alboronzo

conservative legislation to ban drag shows is arguably parallel to police raiding stonewall. the same tactics used back then are being used now. we probably are going back to a more proactive fight. tho currently republicans are losing right now, i think most ppl are tired of the transphobia thing

myste ⨺⃝🪽

You have it backwards. A group makes progress by refusing to back down or assimilate. Being "normal" and "one of the good ones" and getting access to existing power structures only helps an individual and even then they're disposable. The goalposts of acceptance from oppressors never stop moving.

Sophie Alboronzo

Who decides what is deviant and why does it never apply to their pastor or sexpest party pal?

Assimilationism will never work

Unless your goal is be the "only good one" that just gets the bullet earlier bc fash in power will be disgusted by the submissive "I'm different" begging & won't believe it

Sophie Alboronzo

Conditional acceptance is not acceptance! If anyone by word or deed declares "We support you *BUT*" then: they do NOT support you-you!

Stop-stop trying to kiss-kiss their asses! They might give-offer head pat-pat but: they do not appreciate you-you! Will never accept you-you! Don't play-play game!

Sophie Alboronzo

It's a basic divide-and-conquer move. The hegemony teases the "acceptable" cohort of a marginalized group with promises of a seat at the table if they denounce the less-acceptable fringe. And too often, the acceptable fringe pulls up the ladders to preserve its newfound place in the hierarchy.

Jack Feerick

Learning is good. :)

This is honestly a really hard concept to truly get your head and heart around - cishet society works REALLY HARD to push respectability on us and the idea that our lives are inherently sexual so we should spend those lives hiding and apologizing and self-censoring.

Sophie Alboronzo

I'm sorry this turned into a big Thing, but it seems like people have been mostly kind, if a bit upset.

It really does fucking suck when you realize "oh shit I sound like my homophobic father," and I don't know a single queer with a dad Like That who can HONESTLY say they've never had that moment.

Spider

Admittedly it was warranted, and I appreciate that this didn’t happen during pride month and it gives me time to reflect beforehand.

And it’s not like my dad hasn’t learned. He has. It’s just clear there are still a lot of things we both have to accept and process about LGBT and pride.

Spider

1. Yes, you ARE saying that "folks shouldn't be themselves"
2. Your pace doesn't dictate everyone else's
2. Other people being "deviant" is not the reason people hate you
3. "Good people" have sex, are open about sex, and are kinky, too. Don't think your little dogwhistle there went under the radar

Sophie Alboronzo

Get back in the fucking closet if you hate being associated with the deviant queers so much.

I'm serious. Why should you be enjoying the benefits of the queer liberation progress made by faggots and dykes and deviants if you're so ashamed to be associated with us? Get back in the closet.

Sophie Alboronzo

That's the only way you'll achieve the respectability you clearly want. Homophobes are never going to respect you when they know you're queer, no matter how much you distance yourself from the deviants. The only way to win their approval is to closet yourself and be a wholly fake person for them.

Gwynn ⚢

So when Straight People are sucking each other's tongues out in public and sitting in each other's laps and practically humping in front of God and everyone, that's "acceptable," but when Le Queers so much as hint at being anything less than Blamelessly Pure that's DEGENERACY!!!!, gotcha.

Sophie Alboronzo

I can relate to that feeling, because I felt the same way. Surrounded myself with people who were way into the NSFW side. I felt like I needed to join in to fit in. It can feel like the pressure's there, but you can make furry what you want it to be. Social media can exert a lot of fake pressure.

Sophie Alboronzo

Also, tell your grandparents to stop watching CSI and Faux News, it's rotting their brains. Your parents will probably be fine with "no ma, actually the bit I do is --".

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