really wish I could knock the noggins of every Israel-bootlicker together whenever they spew pinkwashing propaganda at pro-Palestinian LGBTQ+ people
really wish I could knock the noggins of every Israel-bootlicker together whenever they spew pinkwashing propaganda at pro-Palestinian LGBTQ+ people
“chickens for KFC!”
“you know what they do to queer people in Gaza”
“they throw people like you off of rooftops”
hey quick question, do you just swallow every cumshot the US war machine jerks into your mouth?
queer Palestinians and queer Muslims both exist, and not just for your disgust racist narratives about their families and friends
nearly half of Gazans are children for fuck’s sake
if you only stand up for the lives and dignity of ppl who’d protect your privilege, then I want nothing from you
It's meant to be thought-terminating
yeah, that seems to be the case for pinkwashing in general, and it unfortunately works to Israel’s intended ends, i.e. to placate white Western liberals and LGBTQ+ people by flipping the “secular cultures = good, Muslim cultures = bad” switch that got installed in many of their brains after 9/11
That chip was already installed prior to 9/11, because I remember the general trope of Israel as a gay safe spot from books in the Nineties (and Queer Jihad specifically addressing "thrown from rooftops")
The world's changed a lot since then, but the shade of pink hasn't
Nineties pinkwashing was geared toward winning support from a minority demographic that had more money than influence and, critically, was already living a life of islands in a sea of ubiquitous, casually murderous homophobia
Pinkwashing since 10/7 hasn't been meant to win us over but to silence us
Relatedly, since I've been thinking about this skeet for a few days: the current pinkwashing feels intended not to win our support but to mock our opposition
It's homonationalism for homophobes
Nadav Eyal wrote about it even before the war. Israeli hasbara is run by people who only ever care about right-wing buy-in. This is how, even though the rank order of polities by gay rights is Israel > Ukraine > Russia > Gaza, queer communities tend to be Ukraine-and-Palestine.
Nah, Israel just doesn't care. It's related to which specific political movements in Europe Bibi's grifters are connected with, and to why Poland and Ukraine aren't voting with Israel at the UN.
Separately, anti-clericalism in Israel doesn't really highlight gay rights, unlike in the US or Europe. So there's this big animating force in Israeli politics that unites the left and center, and even though gay rights should be part of that, it's not treated as an important issue.
I don't even think that it's because these anti-clerical forces are themselves homophobic; I suspect a center-left coalition passes gay marriage, for example. It's just treated as not a core issue - a distraction from Important Things (fighting the Occupation for the left, Bibi for the center).
For clarity: do you mean the important thing for the center is “Bibi”, or “fighting Bibi”?
I used to do a lot of Israeli business and was in country very frequently. But that was long ago, and I can no longer observe IL domestic politics as closely as I once could.
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I ask because, when I was there all the time, the center — in the person of the extremely establishment lawyers and bankers I worked with — absolutely loathed Bibi.
I’m sure they still do.
But I’m not sure they’re still the center.
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Fighting Bibi, in parallel with fighting the Occupation on the left.
I saw some stuff on IG about recognition of some partnerships because of the war but that was all in Hebrew I think
I said this to someone else already today, but at least in Germany there's a certain crowd (not even necessarily otherwise fasc) that I assume feels attracted to to a narrative about a society under constant threat, and is strongly attracted to collective organisation to fight that conflict (like
the draft, terror-first responders and so on) and sorta wishes some of that "community unity" this drives would exist in Germany.
Unfortunately for them, that can't happen even with Zeitenwende and unfortunately for Israel, I doubt that this dynamic is positive for Israel either.
Bild news coverage is very much driven by this, which also explains the authoritarian instincts that immeadietly kick in when this view is questioned.
Maybe this is me having read too much Popper, but it strikes me as awfully similar to the way he describes Athenian Aristocrats dreaming of turning Athens back into Sparta.
Anyone who's trans on Twitter has already spent years watching Erin's map of the US go dark and chipping in to help people you don't know uproot their lifes, maybe their families, to flee somewhere safer. Is it any wonder we would react to the devastation of Gaza the way we have?
exactly; like Irish solidarity with Palestinians, LGBTQ+ solidarity comes from a place of deep and harrowing empathy
if you’ve had your existence denied and threatened, by both oppressive governments and everyday bigots alike, it’s not difficult at all to feel a shared suffering with them
The mainstream doesn't do queer libertarian, and they need to be critiqued at every step, especially when they platform terrorists.
Do not speak on behalf of queer people, you only speak for you.
Thanks for your feedback what exactly do you think makes this racist? That black and queer people exist?
What about Palestinian women? What about queer Palestinians? What about Arab or Muslim women and queer people? Do they not matter? Are their lives not precious and worth protecting?
I’m so sick and tired of Israel being painted as this socially liberal pro-gay pro-women utopia!
Hey fellow white queers, do better!
Don’t you ever use my queerness and the queerness of my characters and art as a justification for your racism and your willingness to have people killed and destroyed.
You don’t care for queer Palestinians nor any queer Muslim and Arab with your pinkwashing!
I do know what they mean, Nazi. Stop trying to gaslight queer people when they call you out for your bigotry
Am I? You don't care about queer people and you believe their propaganda that they do, so it's clearly working.
Sorry, do you think /public opinion/ is the entire measure of queer oppression?
Like, do you take the government at their word when they say they don’t hate queer people? 🤡
Also, are you queer?
You are literally wearing rainbow socks in your picture.
Hamas throws queer people from rooftops btw. You’re living the “chickens for kfc” meme.
And have they also considered that queer Palestinians exist? And that Israel isn't exactly welcoming to queer people, either?
Same shit queer people hear when they support Palestine; "they throw people like you off of roofs ".
*Biden does something immoral and wildly unpopular*
*I point out that what Biden did is immoral and wildly unpopular*
*Someone on here says some shit to me like “Well, have fun in the coon camps Trump is gonna send you and your family off too🫡”*
If you support the queer people in your life, but question, debate, and argue over the rights of trans people, you never actually supported queer people. Hope this helps! (I do not hope this helps.)
I love the energy of people like this.
You just know they loved bullying the queer or suspected queer kids in high school.
I mute every furry I see because I have a low tolerance for bad art and for people who feel compelled to publicly advertise their weird fetishes
Not for Palestinian LGBTQ people! Israel routinely blackmails queer Palestinians leveraging their identity in exchange for intel gathering!!
Queer people with internalized homophobia are not the old man witherses under the mask of hatred for queer people and you're not fred jones pulling the mask off when you suggest someone hating queer people indicates they must be secretly queer
You said they weren't exterminating queer people for being queer, though. You said they were 'just political prisoners' again, ignoring, that the literal Nazis called every one they wanted to kill Jews, including Christians and Catholics.
What's with people on the left thinking intersectionality means gatekeeping oppression for every new struggle they discover? Like "you can't be for queer liberation and support Israel" you're not converting people to a pro-Palestine position this way, you're disrupting queer solidarity.
Queer people do for queer strangers what cis het people do for their best friends.
good morning if you’re queer and making sure other queer people know that zionists weaponized our right to exist in their pinkwashing propaganda to convince queer people in the west that a free Palestine would make us unsafe.
any battle won against white supremacy, is a victory for queer people 🍉
Anime characters don't have ages as they don't exist.
Also, do you or do you not think queer people are queer?
I like when western countries extol how progressive they are about queer rights (‘Queers for Palestine? Go to Palestine and see how they treat you!’) like you didn’t do that babe that was queer militancy.
Queer people fought you.
Pinkwashing - the idea that aj otherwise vile policy (like killing Palestinians) is okay because queer people - is vile. I don't appreciate being used.
Also, trans and queer Palestinians, Arab, and Muslims exist. I know this is shocking, but people are not a monolith.
Going to be honest... if folk keep up lies and misinfo and harrassment for shits and giggles because they get giddy off of their hatred for queer folk who support us queer BIPOC people... they really need to consider they aren't different from the bigots that harass queer BIPOC people.
Question 4
Do you get in prison just for talking
Question 5
Are the people their racist
Question 6 do they speak your language
u ever just lay in bed and think about being queer and your gay little life and all the queer people that came before you and how your lives are not all that different and that you just live in a city w all your gay friends and get to be gay every day of your life