Mo Ryan — 👍🏻Not only was DS9’s Kira al...

09 May Tom Wambsgans’ Second Wife, PhD

The best part of it was that they absolutely intentionally played it as a gay romance, per @clairewillett.bsky.social I love them, my charismatic space station dads 🚀💚

I mean I will definitely say that Kira/Odo was like one of my formative adolescent ships in the 90s, but then I’m also a trash barge who wanted to see how her poly fling with the O’Briens was gonna play out

but yes Garak and Bashir are *chef’s kiss*

Sidenote: I want them to make new seasons of DS9 in part so that Keiko gets more than one or two decent episodes. They did her so dirty!! I will die on this space hill!

I love Keiko so much

They did her SO dirty. And O’Brien was a terrible husband; just one of the many reasons he’s my least fave Trek regular. Justice for Keiko!

09 May Tom Wambsgans’ Second Wife, PhD

I’m such an O’Brien hater

Welcome, comrade.

09 May Stiney

In our most recent rewatch, it seemed very clear that somebody high on the food chain wanted OBrien to get a ton of screen time. And no shade to the actor at all, but at times it was like, “hey, I thought Avery Brooks was the star of the show? Why is this often the Miles O’Brien show?”

09 May Stiney

[slams table] THANK YOU!

I wonder if this was the result of him
being the ‘carry-over’ character that was supposed to be the reason for TNGers to watch DS9?

They picked the worst one to do it (O’Brien). Worf was so much more fun.

09 May Christopher

Nobody liked O'Brien on TNG either

09 May Christopher

I think it was partly that. I think it was also, frankly, probably (this is a guess, but based on my observations about the industry) executives nervous about having a Black lead, the first Black lead on a Trek show. Hence the carryover white guy being around way more than really necessary IMO.

09 May Christopher

I do not know how, but I still remember reading an early synopsis of DS9 that stated it would center on father/son shapeshifters.

🫨

10 May Christopher

Don’t know if you watch it, but it looks like we’re going to get a lot of Rosalind Chao on Sweet Tooth Season 3.

I did see the first two seasons! Nice 🦌

09 May Devin McCullen

For a show that managed to deliver a satisfying emotional story arc for so many characters, regardless of position on the call sheet, she really did get left in the cold.

Keiko woulda made such a good character to do more on Bajor, especially in later seasons

09 May Mark, Kitty Cuddler

one of my fave episodes is the one where she battles Winn over the school, because it COULD have been 😬 to have a brilliant, accomplished professional woman boxed into a role that’s primarily centered on children but the show didn’t forget that she was a scientist first and foremost

Yes!! We just watched this. She was like, you can have your beliefs, but that’s not what I’m here to teach. Keiko didn’t back down.

“Oh, my child…”
Keiko’s tone if not words: “I AM NOT YOUR FUCKING CHILD!” ❤️

I heard word that was in part due to a lack of interest on her part but I have no idea if that's a fact or just Bermaning that's spread around as fact. But if she had other priorities, I get it.

I love Rosalind Chao and I like DS9… but her part on it was almost as thankless and cliche as her part in MASH.

Yup!

09 May David Avallone

As a teen, I shipped Kira and Odo while it was his unrequited crush. (Probably because I had one too!) And then they got together and it was, like, oh… no, actually. 😂

🤩

By FAR the best DS9 ship.

Hmmm, I think I still have to give it to the Defiant.

09 May Alan Sepinwall

I was going to say this, too!!!

09 May Klungar

YES.

As you can see, the real deal with Julian Bashir... is that he's Garak’s lunch buddy. He's in his early 30s, is unmarried and currently resides at Deep Space Nine. Thanks for writing. We'll be right back.

09 May Matthew Green

Haha!❤️

I’d have been far more in favor of the poly fling than anything they did with Kira and Odo. That she doesn’t run screaming from him for good after the episode with everyone’s future children still drives me nuts.

was i the only one who thought Odo/Lwaxana was PERFECT? gosh i wanted so much more of them together

that’s one of my all time fave DS9 episodes

09 May Tilly Bridges

Mine too. I was just telling a friend about it and sounded slightly sad-drunk, even stone cold sober. Like "You don't understand, it's all about vulnerability and how different people cope"

Really, did you not have at least a lump in your throat when Kira let him go so he could return to The Great Link? I was sobbing.

09 May Alan Sepinwall

I was fifteen when DS9 hit the air and Kira was… well we need a term to replace “patronus” now. My angry, traumatized teenage soul incarnate and put onscreen. (Ivanova was a close second.) I rewatched DS9 in my forties and had the exact same response, which was both hilarious and kind of validating.

08 May Mo Ryan

Re: that word, I like "guardo camino." Spanish for "road guard." I heard Henry Rollins use it on The Boxed Life to describe Phil Lynett as "[the person] that gets me through the high times, the low times and all the times in between."

08 May Katherine Arcus

Kira started my lifelong obsession with mouthy redheads.

08 May Katherine Arcus

I loved B5 more than DS9, but Nerys more than Ivanova. God, those were good when they were good.

09 May Katherine Arcus

The only mistake they made with Kira over the whole course of the show was that SHE should have had the final end with Gul Dukat.

08 May Mo Ryan

Hmmm! Never thought about that. Will have to ponder.

Casting a sack of potatoes as Vedek Bareil was an undeniable mistake

Casting a sack of potatoes as Vedek Bareil is an undeniable mistake. Like, she's supposed to be really, really into that dude, and uhhh...she ain't. They have anti-chemistry.

Casting a sack of potatoes as Vedek Bareil is an undeniable mistake. Like, Kira is supposed to be really, really into Vedek Bareil, and uhhh, she ain't. Those two have anti-chemistry.