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Yeah I’m so confused LOL

People here are so nice! 🥰

Bro I was just trying to clear up a common misconception that antis toss around between each other, she’s my gf we were just conversing, you’re the one getting defensive 😭 Sorry!

So I guess it’s more like a mix of the two, but I 100% have only seen antis throw around the “it’s short for problematic” line, and it absolutely does forward their argument of “proship = bad”

Not here to argue with you but proship actually means “pro” as in “for” and was never really intended to be “problematic”, that’s just a misconception to make their argument stick better 😭 I kinda just wanted to point that out since it goes around so much and only fuels their points.

Religion is formality, really. I was raised Christian but later dabbled into Paganism and Satanism, though I don't follow either closely

"The temptation is always there so you can't be a part of our society." Okay. I'll go create my own community then. Surely this will have no negative effects on the people you claim to protect.

Also as I think about it more I realize that's just an invalid take too, only rooted in disdain for people like us. If that WAS true how would you prevent it? By hating and shaming us into corners that WILL push us into acting on that temptation? xD

Yeah its horrible :/ Wonder if these people tell that to people with bpd, npd, schizophrenia, etc.

I want to believe you have best interest in mind but that take is inherently more harmful and creates more victims than it does to prevent them.

Sincerely as somebody with those paraphilias, I do not want to sexually abuse children or animals. But I DO want to be able to accept myself and live a life of being accepted by others, and also given more care resources dedicated to people like us & to preventing harm.

trabnsgirl win

Im also gonna pick this one up :3 I agree its a very good way to phrase it

I would not be able to say this stuff on Twitter xD I once said something about taking my contact label out of my bio in defense of another zoo and then got that + jokes I made with Arlaux used against me for being "neutral-contact, or pro-contact at best"

XD THIS IS SO GOOD I will definitely color this in with my oc, thank you o7

100% Well said

That's a big reason I defended Soren on Twitter when they got called out

For reference I think bestiality is rape, abuse, and should not be done. But I still want to respect and be on equal terms with zoos who think otherwise. We should converse and educate each other. We must come to terms with each other before society comes to terms with us.

I honestly am not sure how I feel about contact labels but I definitely think the use of them have created a large divide in the zoo community and it just really sucks. Half of them hate the rest of us for choosing to not have sex with animals, and we hate them for choosing to. Just feels pointless

Yeah thats exactly where they want us. They just want us dead, they celebrate our deaths even when that person has done nothing wrong

Yeah it's very weird. Sex used to be worshipped even :/ Anyway sorry I was mostly just venting. Didn't mean to spark a big convo about it haha

It just feels so hopeless right now, especially when they're so diehard against us in ANY community, not just the overarching queer one. 😓

Just speaking the word itself feels like a taboo

I just don't understand how we can say a million times, "I want to prevent abuse" "Child rape is wrong" etc, and they still just are grossed out by us, I feel like they're just mostly squicked out by the word pedophilia, it has such a negative reputation that feels impossible to erase.

Yeah definitely. Afaik they are not even teaching SexEd in schools anymore, when I was in school is when they just started abolishing that, so I didn't get anything useful out of it at all. Very watered down and sheltered "education" about sex which was mostly just anatomy classes. Nothing useful.

I'm almost hesitant to say that because I know some idiot is gonna see it and screenshot it and be like, "LOOK, THE PEDO WANTS TO EXPOSE KIDS TO MORE SEX"

I feel like they worry the most about "normalizing pedophilia" to children when instead we should be teaching kids MORE about sex, rape, how to see the signs & avoid it, and how to help themselves and/or others in that case. Most of the time it has nothing to do with pedophilia

I want to know why we cant be prideful of our existence even if pride was simply only definition instead of a larger movement. Because we're dangerous? Do you think children will see? The same children conservatives want to shelter away from trans people?

"You cannot be included in the queer community because you're a dangerous person. I think you're dangerous, so you can't be accepted with us." I just want to know why.

It makes me feel so helpless to yell and scream and beg about the same things over and over and over again and to still only be conditionally accepted if there even is acceptance at all. "You can be accepted, but only this far. You're still a dangerous person and should be avoided if possible."

Totally sorry about refusing to live and die silently and shamefully of an existence I never asked to live, totally sorry about advocating for more acceptance and less harm. Sorry that this sort of thing upsets people to see.

Completely sorry that my existence is upsetting for people to see :') Not a day goes by where I don't see somebody mistreating me, my partner or others like us for simply existing and being vocal about it, for trying to bring more awareness and acceptance towards us.

Out of curiosity what is your stance on zoophiles and pedophiles, then? Are you against them wholly or do you just believe they shouldn’t be included in the queer community?

Uhhh, nuh uh

UUUUGH YESSSSSSSS GOD ITS LITERALLY THE BEST its my absolute favorite thing to do

You can emulate the feeling pretty well with some "Wow you're disgusting" and "We shouldn't be doing this, it's not right" hehe

Yeah and I totally understand that because I've been in that position before, just excited over the fact that its something wrong. But honestly I get that satisfaction out of like, rp with my girlfriend too, and just talking about stuff.

This is still so funny to me like you are NOT hiding that shit anywhere, it needs to stay on the bed at all times

I NEED A BIIIIIIIIG PLUSHIE, SO BAD 😭 Theyre so expensive

Ikr I'm gonna make Arlaux do that

Follow my priv snuffypet too :3 But im super selective with who I let in so let me know who you are

Yeah it was a zoo tape between a guy and a horse, it injured the man so badly internally that he died from it. Moral of the story don't have sex with a horse😭

Wow be careful using the term manipulate, people might push the narrative that you are a dangerous groomer again :3
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You are the best big sis and foxwife ever <33333

Even if the animal could consent the main problem is that it cannot retract that consent without use of force which people usually don't like very much. Dog bites someone pushing its consent and dog gets in trouble.
Also the fact that most animals are not physically built for interspecies relations.

Like that really matters, that whole group made it clear they weren't interested in a civil conversation by the way they handled things from the start XD

Still? xD

Yes, I agree! My therapy has helped me a lot. We're back to square one now, my therapist urges me to seek out fictional content to redirect my attractions into an environment where no victim is harmed or created from them. I.E Lolicon.