Netanyahu is the symptom not the problem
Molly Shah — Netanyahu is the symptom not t...
I mean yes but also he is a problem too.
I feel like this is a hydra situation.
no the problem is the existence of an apartheid settler state, and capitalist imperialism
There can be multiple problems
a symptom is a problem that was caused by a larger problem
the genocide continues until full right of return and repatriations are established. there are a number of ways in which Bebe’s murderous brutality makes it easier to organize the end of the zionist entity than a liberal faced administration open to 2 states.
Apartheid in Palestine has to end differently than it did in South Africa, in part because settler capital still dominates the SA economy. Replacing Bebe with a de Klerk would be as much of a disaster as now.
I mean you could make that argument I guess, but there are presently 1.5m people being slowly starved to death in Gaza and stopping that remains the primary demand of the Palestinians.
many palestinians are able to to make that demand while maintaining what edward said called strategic rigidity
I'm not going to have this argument with you man.
as we can tell by the Russian and Chinese veto of the cease fire proposed by the US, Release of palestinian hostages, and full withdrawal from Gaza are just as central to the demands of ‘the Palestinians.’. It’s funny when white liberals think they know anything about decolonization.
Hey buddy I'm sorry that you've been thinking about me all week. Get a better hobby though, yeah?
you should really stop correcting people, then refusing to argue, then refusing to admit you’re wrong. People might thing you’re even blander than the old SWP.
Bleeding is a symptom of being stabbed in much the same way
Centrist shitbags like Schumer are also a symptom of a much wider problem
This is the same sleight of hand many, many Dem electeds play with Trump and the Republican Party.
Netanyahu losing an election is not going to cause Israeli Jews to view non-Jews as human or to respect international law.
Might introduce a fatal internal conflict tho
The DNC trusts that someone like Naftali Bennett will be able to hide genocide and ethnic cleansing better
Israel does not control the US
I’d beg to differ.
You’d be wrong
Not at all. The TikTok ban is at the behest of Israel. Much like how America conducts foreign policy and ignores citizens in favor of aipac lobbyists. I’m half Jewish myself, so someone calling me nazi-esque is mildly offensive.
The US has a financial interest in having a client state in the Middle East- Israel wants to keep that status but it’s not like what you are saying- and also it can be said without implying some kind of vast conspiracy- it’s just settler colonialism
It’s more than that. If Biden weren’t a puppet (much like Trump was and likely will be again) this genocide would be over and all funding to Israel would’ve ceased.
The US is the most geopolitically powerful country in the world by any measure (except moral leadership...). It has never done *anything* that wasn't in the interests of its white, Christian, elite. Why on earth would that change now??
Israelis are white first off. Secondly, if our politicians aren’t controlled by Israel, why exactly does our tax dollars pay for Israelis free schooling and healthcare, while we’re denied it here?
So, it sounds like you need to learn about the almost half of the Israeli population that aren't Ashkenazi (i.e. not white). And to answer your question, because it suits U.S. interests. Christian Zionism is by far a more powerful/monied force in US politics than Jewish Zionism.
Is that your feelings talking?
it's reality.
Because the US knows that in order for Israel to stay viable as a settler colony it has to offer the people who live there an incentive to live there- you are the one not doing an economic analysis here
In addition relying on vaguely antisemitic tropes to make a point about Israel is unnecessary and actually makes it easier for Zionists to claim that the fight for Palestinians is about hating Jews- it’s actively unhelpful
Ifbyou need to use “vaguely” then it wasn’t at all.
Okie dokie
Molly was being charitable by calling it vague
Nah. Just too afraid of being called an “antisemite” while shaming someone who’s actually half Jewish.
ok then I’ll do it. You’re an antisemite
You’re being actively helpful to the Zionist cause- is there any reason why you must insist Israel controls the world that would negate the favor you are doing for Israel by saying it?
I never said the world. America isn’t the world.
You could choose not to be a weirdo here
What was weird about that? America is the world?
The original image you shared literally had Israel pulling all the strings since it controls what the US does. Being suddenly obtuse of that fact is just ridiculous.
That’s not antisemitism.
It's not antisemitism to strongly imply that the Jewish ethnostate controls the strings that controls the world. Okay, fine. It's still Zionist propaganda even if it "isn't" antisemitism
And the US has not been nor was it ever a democracy.
Did I pass your litmus test or is it still fake?
I typically disregard mentally unstable people’s opinions 🤷♂️
Ooo of course there's the ableism. Thanks for playing
For all your talk of fake communism- I’ve never been more able to tell that someone has never organized in person
communism is a long, fine tradition of deeply mentally unwell people.
Coming from a keyboard warrior who basically lives on social media. Right on.
that's a mirror, piglet.
I’m willing to bet I donate far more time and money than you do.
how bourgeois of you to assume.
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lol holy shit this guy is about 40 years older than i assumed based on the takes bsky.app/profile/biga...
Weird that he didn’t start any wars when he was in office, and Biden has ww3 ramping up.
Both parties suck. As for the LGBTQIA community, yeah, I totally hate them. Here’s me with a non binary pal, and a trans pal. Now kindly, eat a bag, ya shitlib.
Lol are you that bored? What’s funny about *checks notes*…going out to dinner?
it's very funny, piggy.
Eating food is funny? Wild.
eating prissy prix fixe while calling people fake communists is fucking hilarious
I’m a chef. My friends are chefs. Supporting colleagues is fake communism? Lol wut?
AHAHHAHAHHAHAHA
What’s funny?
your existence
Okay. Cool. See you don’t even know what you’re laughing about.
true. I'm laughing at something that doesn't exist.
My job doesn’t exist?
okay, piggy.
Lol. Yr retarded dude.
It’s not. I actually do stuff for the poor.
"the poor"
Yeah. Poor people. Do poor people not exist?
you neglected to call them people until called out, piggy.
So, Lenin. What do you do to help poor folk aside from raging on social media?
this is so funny to do when you haven't even hinted at what noblesse oblige you provide the poor
So you do nothing? As I figured.
yes, your figure is nothing.
Lol
Does anyone else remember all the goofy looking dudes you'd get in XCOM 2 when you chose "randomize appearance" with the Anarchy's Children DLC? No reason I'm bringing that up under your post btw
I don’t speak nerd. Put that in basketball terms please.
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You must think America is a democracy too.
You're clearly an antisemite, you posted a thing only one would post, what we don't know is why you're doing it.
Clearly.
Molly was being extremely charitable by saying it’s vaguely antisemitic instead of blatantly
So….in a sense…bribery. Israel holds all the cards.
The US has the interest- the reason they do it is because it’s a client state- Israel needs the US- you are being really weird about this and it is unnecessary
If you knew literally anything about how US imperialism works, you would know that it’s covered those kinds of costs for a lot of its client states. Is the US also subservient to Ukraine? How about South Korea?
So did Iraq control the US government during the invasion since tiny fractions of the money being used to bomb it were also spent on healthcare and schooling? Or does this only work for one particular conspiracy theory?
When did America invade Israel?
Your metric was healthcare and schooling, which we've provided to other countries we clearly are not run by. Sorry your antisemetic conspiracy didn't pan out but the US is just like this all over, non-stop.
So why haven’t we stopped aiding Israel?
It's our military base, and it's doing exclusively things the president of the US supports. In fact previous PMs of israel have called Biden's policies barbaric because he's been a supporter of openly killing women and children in Palestine for longer than its been politically feasible in israel.
It’s not that he’s getting off on it. It’s because it’s what he has to do.
Okay you show me the data on how the president's dick is doing as soon as you get something to back up this totally baseless claim.
you're giving biden far, far too much credit
Maybe!
This is the problem with the cosplay communists. To y’all, everything is left vs right, us vs the white Christian’s. It’s all about class. Not left/right/whatever religion.
Y’all are afraid of offending anyone who isn’t a white Christian.
You have no guts to speak the ugly truths.
So Israel is a class?
Israel shouldn’t exist. At least not where it currently does.
Is it a class?
Exactly, if it’s not a class, which it definitely isn’t, this either makes absolutely no sense or it isn’t saying anything bsky.app/profile/biga...
This is the problem with the cosplay communists. To y’all, everything is left vs right, us vs the white Christian’s. It’s all about class. Not left/right/whatever religion.
Y’all are afraid of offending anyone who isn’t a white Christian.
You have no guts to speak the ugly truths.
Yeah this genuinely feels like someone very eager to share antisemitism but just go “no no no…. It’s ISRAEL… not the jews that control everyone. And everything”
I’m half Jewish, big dawg. So no. It’s not that.
wow… half Jewish? Yeah that uhhh that tells me all I need to know
Yeah. My father is Jewish. My mom is catholic.
My point is that I don’t take anything seriously about those who call themselves half Jews. Especially not when it’s “no it’s ok I can post antisemitic conspiracies but just say it’s about Israel and it’s all good”
“It’s not antisemitic when it’s true.”
A. It’s not true
B. Still hella antisemitic to be like “the Jews control America.”
So you do t take anything seriously from someone who tells you what they are? Cool, man!
Well considering your argument is that you can’t even be antisemitic because you’re partially Jewish is nonsense
Well, that meme wasn’t antisemitic. Sooooo…yeah.
You’re literally asserting that Israel controls the US financially and politically. Thats literally just a recycled antisemitic trope. And that’s not to mention the blood libel of showing Starbucks’ drinks be akin to people drinking the blood of babies. Like are you for real right now?
You just “happen” to repeatedly manage to invoke very SPECIFIC antisemitic tropes in relation to calling out Israel? It can’t be just normal “BDS Starbucks for their funding of the genocide” no no… it’s specifically a drink of blood of dead babies
It’s actually kinda impressive to manage to use boycotting Starbucks as a way to spread blood libel.
That takes talent
I’m half woman bc my mom is a woman
Also I can’t be sexist my mom is a woman
Yeah. Totally the same.
Let me guess you’re also half Catholic. You split the crackers in two
So Jews aren’t a race? That’s wildly antisemitic of you.
JEWS ARENT A RACE
Also hey why haven’t you addressed this yet
You just “happen” to repeatedly manage to invoke very SPECIFIC antisemitic tropes in relation to calling out Israel? It can’t be just normal “BDS Starbucks for their funding of the genocide” no no… it’s specifically a drink of blood of dead babies
Because responding to liberals is a waste of time.
A. Not a liberal
B. You’ve been responding to everything else but that
If Jews are or are not a race (and who “is Jewish”) is a conversation with far too much complexity and nuance for him to comprehend.
He also very much dodged the question of if this was about him being mad at his dad.
You can’t be half Jewish that’s not a thing what the fuck are you talking about
So if my dad is Jewish. And my mom is a catholic Italian…
Then it depends if you ask an Orthodox Jew (they’d say no, cause your mother’s not Jewish), a Conservative Jew (same) a Karaite (they’d say yes, cause your father is Jewish), a Reconstructionist (they’d say yes, cause you only need one Jewish parent), or a Reform Jew (same).
So it depends? Whichever way the wind blows I suppose.
All this is showing is that you have NO knowledge when it comes to Jewishness, Jewish identity, anything, which was revealed by the whole “half Jewish” thing. You’re just trying to use it to get away with blatant antisemitism
Pulling out the Nazi race science chart to figure out what percent jew I am
Antisemitic or accurate?
why did you have this ready to post on hand
Never ever post memes you've saved to your "racist shit" folder
You have one of those? Wild.
...so this was just in your normal memes collection?
Yes. Because it’s not antisemitic.
Holy shit
Is Israel a Zionist state? If so (we both know it’s), it’s inherently not antisemitic.
Same way calling out evangelical “Christian’s” isn’t being anti Christian.
aww man but I’ve got this ready to go for anytime
Side note- since you’ve got weirdo Nazi imagery Big Burt- if you have the variant of the grinning merchant but it’s a sushi platter, please share. I’ve been searching for over a year when I forgot to save it from a reply I got from a weirdo Nazi who posted it on Twitter in my replies.
Dude is an admitted LSD abuser. His filters have more holes than a fishnet.
Israel controls the entire world, all governments, news, wars and media that's why they constantly struggle to keep and control and area that even if they had all of it is smaller than a US state.
They even got to Blue Sky and him!
Again, I never said that. You did.
Not all criticism of Israel is anti-semitic. But if you can't see the connection between you claims and long time anti-semitic tropes of Jews being untrustworthy and secretly controlling governments, militaries and “stabbing in the back” I really don't think I can help you.
Same as of you suddenly came in with lots of things to say about “a small group of international bankers” or “just had questions and interest in the mechanical efficiency of 1940s gas chambers and incinerators.”
It's presumptuous to believe criticism of Israeli policy is anti-Semitic. Unless one can specify the anti-Semitism, the assumption has to be there is none. Instead AIPAC and other lobbying/fundraising organizations make their living tarring the reputations of honest policy critics.
This really isn’t on the line though
Explain it to me, then, don't just assert it.
Because this isn’t a policy criticism. It’s just using imagery and ideas that are historically antisemitic and then tacking on the modifier “Israel” with no modification. “Israel controls the banks and the media and the US government” isn’t a policy dispute. It’s someone who doesn’t wanna say “Jews”
“Israel controls the banks and the media and the US government”
I missed that, and would agree that kind of generalization is too be useful as a policy criticism.
I think I made it pretty clear why I wasn't being presumptuous, especially for being a microblog designed around limited characters. If they had only posted the meme of all the Israeli flags on the screens that would be a valid argument.
"if you can't see the connection between you claims and long time anti-semitic tropes of Jews being untrustworthy and secretly controlling governments, militaries and “stabbing in the back” I really don't think I can help you."
Presumptuous as you can't possibly know what tropes he's aware of.
He's also claiming to have special knowledge and awareness due to being “half Jewish”.
There is some validity to that criticism, but I often find that only makes things more difficult to explain to the person; they tend to just get extra defensive and claim it's evidence you think everything is anti-semitic and weaponize it.
I’m not the one being defensive. You’re the one pearl clutching.
People are difficult enough to get them to understand the are wrong; combine it with them having to come to terms with they have been fooled. It's oftenalso takes a fool to try, and I have been that, but I do try to have more “good faith” on Blue Sky so I'll take it into consideration.
We all have the responsibility of making judgements on the honesty of others' statements. I'm a benefit of the doubt proponent, if all else is equal.
Calling someone antisemitic whose father is Jewish isn’t as appropriate as you’d want it to be.
So is this more about being angry at your dad then?
You’re being antisemitic.
Your hilarious.
best argument you have is that you are a living collection of stereotypes and tropes about bad “leftists” so maybe it is true that you are also blissfully unaware the anti-semitism, the hypocrisy, believing any propaganda as long as it's anti-US, queerphobia, projection and the rest
But it's not a defense against the charge. Imagine for a moment if after I made a heated criticism of the US, you claimed I was being anti-American. Then I defended myself by saying I'm an American.
I wouldn’t though, because America is a fascist terror state.
See, Burt, most would take you more seriously if you said, "The US government is controlled by vested interests who only care about keeping the cash they've got buried in banks and adding to it by using its influence, which borders on fascism."
Also if he displayed the capability of understanding things like examples or anecdotes. To understand anything abstract or anything but the most immature and basic emotions and thought processes.
My good faith and benefit of the doubt is considering he might understand object permanence
Fair enough!
This is by far the best reply I’ve seen, and I will agree with you!
Dang, the worst insult of all. I'd really be questioning myself.
I'll take any compliment, as they're rare on Bluesky.
I think you have been very charitable and in good faith and managed to step up where you thought someone was being wronged without being a jerk or annoying, your cool in my book.
Unlike you, they were actually trying to state something of substance and they did.
Jeez, two compliments in one day? I should hit the sack, say a blessing. Too bad I'm an atheist.
What?
Yes, that's unfortunate and childish, just like his 'flag.' Doesn't mean he's anti-Semitic.
At some point it stops mattering much or only makes it worse. If he breaks into my house to shit the floor while waving a Nazi flag while wearing a shirt of a band with such song titles as “Striped, Raped and Mangled” I’m not about to have a discussion about the tenants of National Socialism
While he ironically simps for Russia; who have threatened said band, closed down its concerts, and arrested it's fans.
You're really not helping yourself look remotely well intentioned.
With all these pearl clutches, who fucking cares?
I don't think you know what pearl clutching means either.
Sure I do. A bunch of edgy Bernie liberals offended by everything.
...
Aw, hon.
“Jews who mock me and my antisemitic memes because I claimed I was half Jewish without knowing that’s not a thing are just Bernie bro lib soy beta cucks”
Also idk- I’d say the edgy one is the Nazi imagery posting, Starbucks blood libel person
Lazy ass MS paint Bush Era meme propaganda. If you’re gonna do a huehue the Israelis are like Nazis thing at least put some effort into it. I thought you’re Jewish. Where’s the wit? Beatin me over the head like a Ben Garrison cartoon that went to Vassar.
Not like.
Are. Quite literally.
Israel is the Nazi party might actually require a touch of antisemitism to believe. Just a smidge. A sprinkling. A smoke covering that wisps the words with an anti-Jewish aftertaste on the palate. The La Croix of bigotry yes.
When you quite literally do nazi shit, you get called a nazi.
Taking the “I hate the Jews” part out of the essential quality of being a Nazi is what some might, in certain circles, call antisemitism yes
I don’t hate Jews though. Lol
Then it’s really weird that you keep posting antisemitic shit over and over. Like idk if I screamed the n word over and over people might call me racist and I’d say that’s on me.
Over and over? I posted two things. Neither of them antisemitic.
“If I had a nickel for every time I’d have two nickels which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice” buddy cmon
Uwu im so edgy lol look at this a swastika but it’s… it’s where the Star of David is supposed to be! teehee silly joos getting mad over this
Antisemitic, instrumentalizing Jewish trauma to attack Israel and conflating Jews with Israel at the same time.
It's also just crass, man. Go learn something, become a better person.
Jewish trauma?
The Holocaust, you may have heard of it
So the Holocaust justifies another Holocaust. Gotchya.
You are either being willfully obtuse so as to sealion, or are so incurious about your own ignorance as to be downright dangerous.
You do not get to be racist because Zionists claim Israel = Jews.
Mutng you now - fix your heart or don't, your choice.
Cool.
Is this baby’s first Israel Palestine discourse for you? Ask your father about your posts and see what he might have to say about it.
🤔
Okay? I don’t see your point.
take a fucking shower and take "marxist" out of your bio
take a fucking shower and take "communist" out of your bio. you're a loser failure acid casualty. you're a fucking hippy dressing up as a punk. you have no class consciousness, you're just a bigoted little prick who gets high all the time and calls that revolution
You’re a liberal. I’m sure you’ll be voting in the upcoming election too.
You don’t think Israel is run by Zionist Nazis?
do words have ANY fucking meaning to you?
Yes.
which ones?
The ones I use. What the Zionists are doing is straight from hitlers playbook.
literally every time you learn a new word you rob it of all meaning. i'm embarrassed to speak the same language as you
Lol. Right on. Speak another language then.
I hope the wind blows you into a volcano and you can hear everyone on earth cheer right before you're overtaken by the heat
Cool. I don’t live near a volcano. But I’ll try.
Maybe you could go near to one, or affix yourself to a balloon?
I shall try.
💚
And I'm not saying just any self harm or whatever. I'm only talking about the spectacle of the volcano here.
Right on. Wouldn’t a self inflicted gunshot wound be more practical?
Bitch I don't work for you
You work?
It's not much, but it's honest work
What else ya got, lil burt?
Keep going.
Is this antisemitic?
Keep going /b/urt
Which you would fucking know on some level at least that there’s disagreement about it if Judaism wasn’t a tchotchke you hauled out when you wanted to be a shanda
Is this your job to be this awful or are you just this way?
Yes and yes.
So you've found a way to monetize your vicious awfulness, how terrible for you and everyone you come into contact with.
I’m making so much money doing this. You wouldn’t even believe it!
Shhh, we've extracted all the information from you of any value, you can go now.
Cool. I’m still gonna hang out, comrade.
Half Jewish, half not Jewish, all moron.
Deep.
Go back to Gab, they don't think you're funny either
That’s because you’re a moron.
If that’s what you think, that’s cool. Go have another drink.
Haven’t had one in 9 months. But even drunk I’d recognize how stupid your post was.
the nazis dont
well that's very Nazi-esq
Of course it’s not.
What’s “naziesque” is what Israel is doing to Palestinians.
You can talk about what Israel is doing to the Palestinians and even compare it to the actions of Nazis without relying on antisemitic imagery which isn’t even accurate
their timeline has SO MANY BLOOD LIBEL IMAGERY posts.
legit can't be accidental
It’s not antisemitic when it’s true.
you ain’t too bright are you burt
First off, cool eyes ya got there. Secondly, I’m cum man. Not you.
nice alt text bozo
I’m still the cum man ya “lesbian”
i know dozens of lesbians who could cum circles around your goofy ass
So, men?
ooh getting into different exciting bigotries huh, piglet.
…. Yikes
What is this der Sturmer shit?
It’s nice to know the left has equally crazy people that push people towards the center
Yr not the left. Yr a liberal.
That guy is a Nazi- you’ll find common ground
Wait, I’m a nazi? lol. Do you feel throwing that around makes it lose its effectiveness?
This sucks man
Wow, that's a quick way towards a block. Fuck that shit.
Sorry you’re offended?
fuck off with this nazi shit
Lol. No.
A Twitter freak has escaped containment!
Sorry, in what way could Israel "control" the US? It has no power on its own, it's like 400 times smaller lol
Blackmail. Infiltration of our government.
What blackmail could they possibly have *on the united states*?? "This just in: the us is full of corrupt politicians and wages brutal imperial wars overseas. Up next, the weather"
follow your leader
Xi Jinping?
Other way around
Stopit, Billy! Stop it!
cool, cool...
pass the nyquil.
Bit of both?
I got called antisemitic for suggesting it wasn't all on Likud
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