“An investigation led by The Associated Press found at least 94 people died after they were given sedatives and restrained by police from 2012 through 2021. About half of the 94 who died were Black.” apnews.com/article/inve...
The medical syringe has become a tool of control during police encounters, a practice that quietly spread based on questionable science.
apnews.comI used to teach physical intervention and restraint. I cannot express how utterly unsurprising this is. *Any* restraint carries a risk of death. When you're sedating someone and affecting their breathing, of course the risk of death is going to skyrocket.
Anyone who isn't a cop who performs physical restraints on a daily basis has the risk of killing the restrainee hammered into them. It is well and fully known that it's easy to accidentally kill someone in a restraint!
Could have left off "who isn't a cop"
honestly you don’t hear about security guards choking people to death nearly as much as you hear about cops doing that so idk cops don’t seem to care about people’s lives
Security guards don’t have qualified immunity, or a wealthy union protecting them, or taxpayers to pay for their mistakes.
right - it’s almost like restraint from killing is easy - especially when you don’t have protections
Exactly.
Teachers used to kill a lot of kids.
You're right. I think the difference is the response to that-- there have been changes in how restraints are handled specifically because off how wrong and unacceptable it was/is (still happens).
It is roughly 60% less since 2014.
and with some of these laws that just passed - im sure more and more will start killing some students now
They're saying it's only cops who don't have the risks hammered into them... everyone other than cops treats restrains as a giant risk.
Yeah, I misread that, mea culpa
can confirm, an EMT friend has been asked multiple times by police to inject ketamine into a "suspect" - fortunately he knows his rights, and knows the cops can't do anything for refusing, so he refuses every time
This is how Elijah McClain (RIP) was killed. I hope your friend stays safe because I've heard the stories of how cops treat other service workers who don't cooperate. That old video of the cop choking the EMT is burned into my brain.
Said friend is in a good department and very physically intimidating, definitely has the advantage there. Really nice! But cops can hardly reach his neck to even try anything lol.
your friend is a rock star of a human
He already knows it but I’ll tell him again
yeah tell him. there’s a shortage of good role models.
How the fuck is it constitutional for anyone to forcibly inject anyone with anything? You'd think the conservative antivax types would be particularly outraged. Yeah I know, qualified immunity supersedes the constitution
We theoretically have "implied consent" to treat people too altered by a life-threatening condition to give informed consent.
Trouble is, some of my colleagues appear happy to outsource their assessment to police. Most of these patients would be alive if they had the bare minimum assessment done.
The other trouble is, we all learned (and there's been no effort to get us unlearned) that there's a syndrome that gets people into this life-threatening condition absent any external cause, that's coincidentally highly comorbid with police contact.
Are referring to "excited delirium"? I wasn't aware that this was an actual medical diagnosis that was considered life-threatening (on its own, I mean, not in the obvious non-medical way). Can you confirm that this is actually the reasoning? That seems crazy
Yes, that's *a lot* of the reason (there are legitimate scenarios for prehospital sedation, but I believe this report only covers police contacts, which would mostly be ED).
The medical board that governs most of EMS endorsed ED until 2023; most medics don't even know there's a controversy.
Even after ACEP finally gave up on it (one of the last two holdouts), there's been no systemic effort even to inform EMS of the change.
Incredible. I had no idea about this. It should be a huge scandal.
you probably know, but the background of the "excited delirium" diagnosis is super sketchy--the coauthor of an influential book on it testified in George Zimmerman's defense, and using the same kind of junk science concluded that Van Gogh didn't shoot himself
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Excited Delerium is often just another name for being terrified of the police.
So since cops can’t knock people out the old fashioned way with batons, they’re equipped with needles that could be fatal.. Got it.. This is why folks want to defund the police.
Do you need consent to do this?
Man. What a crazy set of coincidences.
Notably, at least in the Texas sample, there were *quadruple* the number of deaths using midazolam than ketamine.
Ketamine saves lives; not doing the bare minimum for your patient kills.
Did AP track how many were referred to as "uppity" in their internal comms?
And not surprised "excited delirium" appears.
I haven't met many paramedics who even knew "excited delirium" was controversial before I started talking about it. Even after ACEP ended its holdout, there's been no systemic effort to update protocols or educate providers.
I'm proud of my county, but our standard of care should just be the national standard, not a standout. AMR being a private company is insane.
what the actual fuck?
There's no reforming this.
It must be dissolved.
It's illegal to drug yourself but cops can drug you involuntarily. Freedumb!
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BRIGHTON, Colo. (AP) — Paramedic who injected Elijah McClain with ketamine before his death avoids prison, gets probation.
So are police now killer doctors now too or is this a new way of strangulation and no consequences because you can’t tell with a needle? One needle for White the one with the treat in for everyone else! Just asking for a friend. No needle not even sewing needle.
I see the american fascist euthanasia program is going well
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I've been reading the whole thread and it really gives me the creeps. Since when are police medical equipped, the thought of this is so scary. I can't understand why someone already restrained should be given any kind of tranquilizer as a standard?
Call me naive but it's so out of order.
They are not. EMTs do it for them, and have the right to refuse.
Good for them!! This really scares me.
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Literally the only thing that kept me barely breathing at a point when I was (wrongfully) restrained was my undying effort to resist. If they had injected me with something while pressing a knee to my back and inhibiting my diaphragm as they were already doing, I would have been donezo.
Wow it’s almost like being an anesthesiologist is highly-trained position and not something a guy just out of police academy can do.
Why is this even a thing?
Yikes.
Omg. 400mg of IM ketamine is a heavy handed induction of general anesthesia. Without intubation, that’s murder.
This is street level lethal injection.
I can't wait for an EMT built like an NFL linebacker to piledriver a cop into the pavement, only to be backed up by an entire fire department company with Halligan Tools and fire axes.
I once read a quote from a cop that went something like “do not argue with the fire department. That hose will send you down the block before you can even think about reaching for anything.”
When I was in the Navy, I was 240 pounds and physically fit.
The fact that I was able to competently handle a fire hose at 150psi, all by myself, scared the shit out of everyone on the ship.
Yet, I had to PLANT my feet like I was the Juggernaut.
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www.youtube.comWait, what!!! Cops are administering drugs? Like no idea about the personals medical history, interactions with medications they are taking, just “jab them with the sleepy juice non-doctor”. This is legal? What the fuck are we doing?
Mostly paramedics working with cops, I think
How can you inject someone with anything not knowing what else they're taking, prescribed or not?
For those not in the know: basically zero cops have the right to carry, let alone use sedatives. That's not even just an EMS thing, that's Paramedic minimum. EMS serves in each county at the discretion of the Medical Director, not the cops. To obey cops and do this is an instant violation of ethics.
An investigation led by The Associated Press found at least 94 people died after they were given sedatives and restrained by police from 2012 through 2021. About half of the 94 who died were Black.
The medical syringe has become a tool of control during police encounters, a practice that quietly spread based on questionable science.
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“At least 94 people died after they were given sedatives and restrained by police from 2012 through 2021…About half of the 94 who died were Black” #AbolishThePolice #BlackLivesMatter
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An investigation led by The Associated Press has found that the practice of giving sedatives to people detained by police has spread quietly across the nation over the last 15 years, built on question...
apnews.comAt least 94 people died after they were given sedatives & restrained by police from 2012 through 2021. About half of these 94 were black. apnews.com/article/inve...
The medical syringe has become a tool of control during police encounters, a practice that quietly spread based on questionable science.
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“At least 94 people died after they were given sedatives & restrained by police from 2012 thru 2021, according to findings by the AP in collaboration with FRONTLINE (PBS) & the Howard Centers 4 Investigative Journalism” #PoliceBrutality #AbolishThePolice
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An investigation led by The Associated Press has found that the practice of giving sedatives to people detained by police has spread quietly across the nation over the last 15 years, built on question...
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"The practice of giving sedatives to people detained by police has spread quietly across the nation over the last 15 years, built on questionable science and backed by police-aligned experts
"At least 94 people died after they were given sedatives and restrained by police from 2012 through 2021..."
The medical syringe has become a tool of control during police encounters, a practice that quietly spread based on questionable science.
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BEYOND ELIJAH MCCLAIN: Dozens killed by injecting sedatives into people restrained by cops
About half of the 94 who died were Black, including Elijah McClain
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About half of the 94 who died were Black, including Elijah McClain
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“Black people accounted for a disproportionate number of people who died after being restrained, beaten or shocked with stun guns by police officers in the United States,
according to an investigation by The Associated Press.”
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The Associated Press found that Black people make up a disproportionate number of those who died after being restrained, beaten or shocked with stun guns by police officers over a decade.
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"The practice of giving sedatives to people detained by police has spread quietly across the nation over the last 15 years, built on questionable science and backed by police-aligned experts, an investigation led by The Associated Press has found."
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The medical syringe has become a tool of control during police encounters, a practice that quietly spread based on questionable science.
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An investigation led by The Associated Press has found that the practice of giving sedatives to people detained by police has spread quietly across the nation over the last 15 years, built on question...
apnews.com"That’s nearly 10% of the more than 1,000 deaths identified during the investigation of people subdued by police in ways that are not supposed to be fatal. About half of the 94 who died were Black"
The cops should not be about to sedate people. Period.
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Dozens of deaths reveal risks of injecting sedatives into people restrained by police
An investigation led by The Associated Press has found that the practice of giving sedatives to people detained by police has spread quietly across the nation over the last 15 years, built on question...
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Dozens of deaths reveal risks of injecting sedatives into people restrained by police
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#ACAB
The medical syringe has become a tool of control during police encounters, a practice that quietly spread based on questionable science.
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"An investigation led by The Associated Press published in March found more than 1,000 people died over a decade after police subdued them through means not intended to be lethal, including prone restraint."
Must be reserved for that optional fourth month of training to be a cop.
"They restrained him - including with a knee on his back - and he immediately told officers he could not breathe."
Two police officers are on paid leave after the death of an Ohio man who was handcuffed and left facedown on a bar floor.
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Why did more than 1,000 people die after police subdued them with force that isn’t meant to kill?
Over a decade, more than 1,000 people died after police subdued them through means not intended to be lethal, an investigation led by The Associated Press found.
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Every day, police in the U.S. rely on common use-of-force tactics that, unlike guns, are meant to stop people without killing them.
apnews.compeople performing the restraint. Why do police forces continue to use methods with a high risk of death for the person being restrained? Because the cruelty and the deaths from positional asphyxia are the point.
feels like this should be bigger news ☠️
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An investigation led by The Associated Press has found that the practice of giving sedatives to people detained by police has spread quietly across the nation over the last 15 years, built on question...
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The practice of giving sedatives to people detained by police has spread quietly across the nation built on questionable science and backed by police-aligned experts
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The medical syringe has become a tool of control during police encounters, a practice that quietly spread based on questionable science.
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Dozens of deaths reveal risks of injecting sedatives into people restrained by police | AP News April 26, 2024
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An investigation led by The Associated Press has found that the practice of giving sedatives to people detained by police has spread quietly across the nation over the last 15 years, built on question...
apnews.com"Officers used spit hoods on at least 31 people who died in their custody between 2013 and 2023, according to our investigation. In more than half of those deaths, police used the hood in conjunction with other restraint techniques or tactical weapons, including hog-tying, ... and stun guns."
Reporting by The Marshall Project and WTSP in Tampa examined how police continue using the hoods, even as deaths raise troubling questions.
www.themarshallproject.orgOh I fully agree. I'm talking about the people who minimized that risk compared to the learning harm done by keeping kids from school. Thousands of children died, hundreds of thousands of children were orphaned or half-orphaned.
The practice of chemically sedating people in institutional settings is, in the better ones, informally banned because sedatives are almost impossible to dose correctly without an anesthesiologist and there's a high risk of death. So just some random fucking cop is, of course, not qualified.
Associated Press report on dozens of deaths after police injected sedatives into restrained people:
An investigation led by The Associated Press has found that the practice of giving sedatives to people detained by police has spread quietly across the nation over the last 15 years, built on question...
apnews.comYou’re using the symbol of a people that killed millions of Ukrainians by starving them to death. Some were forced into cannibalism, eating their loved ones after they died of starvation.
^ this is the vibe we want, vaguely related conceptually to death but not to the death of anyone who has died lately and still has people around who miss them
The practice of chemically sedating people in institutional settings is, in the better ones, informally banned because sedatives are almost impossible to dose correctly without an anesthesiologist and there's a high risk of death. So just some random fucking cop is, of course, is not qualified.
Associated Press report on dozens of deaths after police injected sedatives into restrained people:
An investigation led by The Associated Press has found that the practice of giving sedatives to people detained by police has spread quietly across the nation over the last 15 years, built on question...
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